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	<title>CFNCBETA on TRUTH</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Now at this point in time. We can not stop what many call obamacare. The idea is foolishness. I wrote many times. They will pass this bill. How did I know?</p>
<p>Simple deduction. I can predict their future movements as well,but whats the point? AARP did not believe me. While so many debated and argued and fought back and forth about Health Care. I tried to tell them it was not about what they want you distracted with. It is their initial steps to remove the power of our Constitution.&#160; Take your freedom from you. No matter what you do or say,it will continue. Now the bitter pill. If we Americans do not arm ourselves with&#160; the truth. We will execute the same futile expierment again. This will quicken the destruction of our liberties. Then the lives of us older folks who are unable to contirbute to the NWO with labor,will become extremely difficult. This is not by chance.It is by design. It is part of the advancement of the FUNDAMNENTAL TRANSFORMATION plan. It is the reason the White House never calls Becks red phone to refute his accusations. You see my friends I am confident that I will not be around long enough to see AARP and all those of us who actually supported and defend BHO and his PROGRESSIVE Agenda get their just reward. It will be their end. Literally! I am so amazed that so many of us very wise old souls voted for this person based on AARP&#39;s supporting him. Other than you athiest&#39;s. How could you vote for a man who blatantly lied about his 20 years sitting in a pew listening to a spiritual leader spewing profanity and blasphemy out of his mouth? Now watch as they try to remove Christianity from our country. It was claimed,that we seniors present the largest voting block in America! If this is true? Then you must set aside your parties and vote The DNC out of power. I tell you no matter the promises or lies they perpetuate you must stop them. If not ,you will not need worry about you grandchildren anymore as you can be assured they will be enslaved by the enormous debt that the Progressive agenda dictated to you and then they have no future to speak of,other than paying their homage to the NWO.</p>
<p>Chuck</p>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sandy on Activists Approach - Posted for Chuck Nichols</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Did you know Obama provides his people a link to contact media to support health care bill!  We can take advantage of it!</p>
<p>We can use this same link to OPPOSE it. Dick Morris says we have to get 8% points in disapproval ratings to defeat it! Please follow this link, send your letter of opposition. (and continue to fax)</p>
<p>Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8221; Organizing for America &#8221; has put the call out for people to Email their local papers and write a letter to the editor. They have created a VERY easy and fast way to write all your local papers with just a few key strokes. PLEASE take a minute to do this today and jump behind enemy lines to help kill the bill.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what we need to do :<br /> Go to : <a rel="nofollow" href="http://my.democrats.org/page/speakout/posthouseLTE" target="_blank">http://my.democrats.org/page/s.....sthouseLTE</a><br /> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.the912project.us/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private" target="_blank">http://www.the912project.us/pr.....es_private</a></p>
<p>Glenn Beck seems to feel that our fight against health care isn&#8217;t strong enough. Let&#8217;s prove him wrong! Get this viral to all you those who you think will participate in being vocal against health care.</p>
<p>Did you know there are tips to writing congress?  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.congress.org/news/2009/11/13/five_tips_from_grover_norquist" target="_blank">http://www.congress.org/news/2.....r_norquist</a></p>
<p>Use sites like:                       (These are just a few samples and if you know of others, let me know)</p>
<p>Congress.org                        State and Federal Legislators (click on those words)<br /> Americanvoice.com             Contact all Legislators at once.<br /> numberusa.com                    Preformatted letters<br /> 912 Coalition                         Preformatted letters and Petitions<br /> Grassfire.org                         Preformatted letters and Petitions</p>
<p>Did you know you can use this Pro Abortion site to write your own Anti Abortion Message to Legislators?  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://action.ourfuture.org/t/43/content.jsp?content_KEY=21" target="_blank">http://action.ourfuture.org/t/.....ent_KEY=21</a> (just like we learned in our Activists class).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the 28th Amendment to the US Constitution</p>
<p>Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States .</p>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sandy on Health Care Reform - posted for Chuck Nichols</title>
	<link>http://moveonuponline.com/forum/obamacare/health-care-reform-posted-for-chuck-nichols/#p23</link>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that Reid believes he may have his 60 votes as early as today?    ACTION ALERT</p>
<p>Did you know that Obama plans to strip anti abortion language from Health Care Bill prior to signing?  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/15/axelrod-signals-obama-try-strip-abortion-language-health-care/" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....alth-care/</a></p>
<p>Did you know that 48% of Americas are for the proposed Health Care Reform and 49% against? That margin is way too small and the time to become a good activist is NOW. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/17/AR2009111700021.html?wpisrc=newsletter" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....newsletter</a></p>
<p>Did you know that there is a rationing commission in the Health Care Bill?  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703792304574504020025055040.html?mod=djemEditorialPage" target="_blank">http://online.wsj.com/article/.....torialPage</a></p>
<p>Did you know the Health Reform Bill is laden with privileges for Unions?   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=18692&#38;utm_source=newsletter&#38;utm_medium=email&#38;utm_campaign=DPD" target="_blank">http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/in.....mpaign=DPD</a><br /> Do you realize that it forces unionization amongst medical workers? Do you realize that 10 Million of our Tax Dollars are going to be donated to Unions to offset their Cadallic Plan Costs?</p>
<p>Did you know that they will be rationing Mammograms because they are too expensive?   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://americansforprosperity.org/111709-rationing-mammograms-too-expensive" target="_blank">http://americansforprosperity......-expensive</a> Did you believe that the Federal forum on Mammograms was true research? The American Cancer Association is livid over the statement, not only about mammograms being unnecessary, but the statement that breast self exams serve no purpose in determining breast cancer? Now there is a stupid, stupid statement!. Propaganda at work!</p>
<p>Did you know that HR 3961, (Doctors payments) was debated today? Of course, the debate and the bill did not allow for amendments, just overview and adjustment of payments to physicians being paid by Medicare and Medicaid, adjusting for inflation. Well, we just increased the national debt again! It&#8217;s over 12 Trillion Dollars today! <a rel="nofollow" href="https://mail.google.com/mail/?dest=http%3A%2F%2Fgmail.google.com%2Fgmail&#38;zx=1psh439jrqgtm&#38;shva=1#inbox/12507dc478230a3c" target="_blank">https://mail.google.com/mail/?dest=http%3A%2F%2Fgmail.google.com%2Fgmail&#38;zx=1psh439jrqgtm&#38;shva=1#inbox/12507dc478230a3c</a></p>
<p>ACTION ALERT                            ACTION ALERT                                   ACTION ALERT<br /> Just the few thousand that get this mailing can push this opposition much higher if we just write, call and publish!</p>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sandy on SNEAKY PELOSI: PASSED Health Care Reform on Saturday Night</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>tropicalbreeze said:We can hope that it doesn&#39;t make it through the Senate. I have heard that probably won&#39;t happen (the vote in Senate) until next year. It&#39;s no surprise that Pelousy got her way. It makes me sick too! <img title="Yell" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-yell.gif" alt="Yell" /></blockquote>
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<p>I don&#39;t trust them and I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if they don&#39;t try to pass this bill before the first of the year.&#160; Once again, nobody will read the bill and we won&#39;t have any idea what&#39;s in it.</p>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>tropicalbreeze on Email from Barack Obama - Making History</title>
	<link>http://moveonuponline.com/forum/obamacare/email-from-barack-obama-making-history/#p10</link>
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	<description><![CDATA[I&#39;d like to help make <strong>him</strong> history! Bad bad stuff. Just BAD.<img title="Yell" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-yell.gif" alt="Yell" />
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>tropicalbreeze on SNEAKY PELOSI: PASSED Health Care Reform on Saturday Night</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[We can hope that it doesn&#39;t make it through the Senate. I have heard that probably won&#39;t happen (the vote in Senate) until next year. It&#39;s no surprise that Pelousy got her way. It makes me sick too! <img title="Yell" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-yell.gif" alt="Yell" />
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sandy on Email from Barack Obama - Making History</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>He is gearing up for a fight to push the Senate Bill through seconds after it pases the house!!!&#160; Here is a email I received tonight from President Barack Obama, supported by Organizing for America a DNC project:</p>
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<p>This evening, at 11:15 p.m., the House of Representatives voted to pass their health insurance reform bill. Despite countless attempts over nearly a century, no chamber of Congress has ever before passed comprehensive health reform. This is history.</p>
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<p>But you and millions of your fellow Organizing for America supporters didn&#39;t just witness history tonight -- you helped make it. Each "yes" vote was a brave stand, backed up by countless hours of knocking on doors, outreach in town halls and town squares, millions of signatures, and hundreds of thousands of calls. You stood up. You spoke up. And you were heard.</p>
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<p>So this is a night to celebrate -- but not to rest. Those who voted for reform deserve our thanks, and the next phase of this fight has already begun.</p>
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<p>The final Senate bill hasn&#39;t even been released yet, but the insurance companies are already pressing hard for a filibuster to bury it. OFA has built a massive neighborhood-by-neighborhood operation to bring people&#39;s voices to Congress, and tonight we saw the results. But the coming days will put our efforts to the ultimate test. Winning will require each of us to give everything we can, starting right now.</p>
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<p>Please donate $5 or whatever you can afford so we can finish this fight.</p>
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<p>Tonight&#39;s vote brought every American closer to the secure, affordable care we need. But it was also a watershed moment in how change is made.</p>
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<p>Even after last year&#39;s election, many insider lobbyists and partisan operatives really thought that the old formula of scare tactics, D.C. back-scratching and special-interest money would still be enough to block any idea they didn&#39;t like. Now, they&#39;re desperate. Because, tonight, you made it crystal clear: the old rules are changing -- and the people will not be ignored.</p>
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<p>In the final phases of last year&#39;s election, I often reminded folks, "Don&#39;t think for a minute that power concedes without a fight," and it&#39;s especially true today. But that&#39;s okay -- we&#39;re not afraid of a fight. And as you continue to prove, when all of us work together, we have what it takes to win.</p>
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<p>Please donate to OFA&#39;s campaign to win this fight and ensure that real health reform reaches my desk by the end of this year:</p>
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<p><a title="Donate" href="https://donate.barackobama.com/History" target="_blank" target="_blank">https://donate.barackobama.com/History</a></p>
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<p>Let&#39;s keep making history,</p>
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<p>President Barack Obama</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sandy on SNEAKY PELOSI: PASSED Health Care Reform on Saturday Night</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>They were able to pass their bill, 220 to 215 with ONE Republican vote.&#160;<img title="Yell" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-yell.gif" alt="Yell" /> &#160; Considering the&#160; Democrats have full control over the house that is a very small margin and shows that even the Democrats are afraid of repercussions when it&#39;s time for re-election. There were over 2,000 pages in this bill and I have no idea how many actually read it this time.&#160; This makes me SICK!&#160;</p>
<p>I think they only needed 218 votes, so 3 votes (and 1 lone Republican) made the difference.&#160; I&#39;m sure tomorrow we will have a lot more information and will know who that Republican is ... I suggest we encourage people to write to this person and let him know that peopel all over the United States will be sending money to support who ever runs against him in then re-election!&#160;</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>woman10 on Even Democrats have reservations - Message from Congressman Brian Baird</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>G-d bless you, Congressman Baird. I so appreciate your position and I hope you won&#39;t worry about the bullies among you because it seems to me that most Americans do not want this bill.</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Thank you.</strong></span></p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sandy on Even Democrats have reservations - Message from Congressman Brian Baird</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>NOTE:&#160; I am not supporting this Congressman only noting that even "some" Democrats recognize there are major problems with this health care reform bill.</em></span></p>
<p>Congressman Brian Baird&#8217;s Statement Regarding H.R. 3962 &#8211; The Affordable Health Care for America Act</p>
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<p>Washington, D.C.-   I strongly believe there is a need for health care reform and I have offered my own proposal for how this should be accomplished.  The bill before the House is a result of thousands of hours of effort put in by members of Congress and their staff, plus the unprecedented input from the public on all sides of this issue.  Clearly, people care about how we deliver and pay for health care in this country and there is a need and opportunity for change.</p>
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<p>In comparison to the initial draft of H.R. 3200, a number of improvements have been made.  To name just a few, the current bill would allow negotiations for prescription drugs under Medicare D, promote alternatives to malpractice litigation, and allow for cross state agreements to purchase cross state insurance (something especially relevant to border districts such as my own).  There are also elements that could at long last correct the Medicare payment disparities that disadvantage our state, and the bill would end the anti-trust exemption long enjoyed by insurance companies.</p>
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<p>All of those changes are commendable, but there are still reasons for concern.   The most important of these is the simple fact that we do not yet have reliable estimates of how this legislation will impact the premiums paid by people who already have insurance.</p>
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<p>This week I spoke with Nancy-Ann DeParle, the President&#39;s chief health advisor and Doug Elmendorf, the director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).  Although some prominent economists have asserted that premiums on average may go down relative to what they would be without this bill, the CBO has yet to complete its analysis of the issue.  Furthermore, just yesterday, the chief actuary for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) said he did not think a cost estimate of the House bill would be available before the scheduled vote.</p>
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<p>This is no small matter.  To insist that members vote on this legislation without having cost estimates of Medicare and Medicaid impacts by CMS or an estimate of premium impacts from the CBO seems premature and unwise.</p>
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<p>Precisely because this matter is so important, it is critical that we do things right, and know what we are doing.  At present, unfortunately, I do not believe we have answers to fundamental questions.</p>
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<p>Another troubling matter is how the legislation will be brought to a vote.   As of this writing, only one amendment will be allowed from the Republican side.  No other amendments, by either the majority or minority members, will be allowed.  I believe that is a mistake.   For a matter of this importance, and on which reasonable people can and do disagree, there ought to be more opportunity granted for amendments on both sides.</p>
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<p>For these reasons, until more information is available on premium estimates and Medicare impacts, I will vote against the legislation in its current form.  I will wait to make a decision on final legislation until this critical information becomes available and when the House and Senate together produce one bill.</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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